{"id":9406,"date":"2025-07-31T07:54:41","date_gmt":"2025-07-31T07:54:41","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/localhost\/?p=9406"},"modified":"2025-07-31T07:54:41","modified_gmt":"2025-07-31T07:54:41","slug":"cheating-on-quantum-computing-benchmarks","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/zero.redgem.net\/?p=9406","title":{"rendered":"Cheating on Quantum Computing Benchmarks"},"content":{"rendered":"<h2>Security Update News<\/h2>\n<h3>Update Information<\/h3>\n<table style=\"width:100%; border-collapse: collapse; margin-bottom: 20px;\">\n<tr>\n<th style=\"text-align: left; padding: 8px; border: 1px solid #ddd; \">Title<\/th>\n<td style=\"padding: 8px; border: 1px solid #ddd;\">Cheating on Quantum Computing Benchmarks<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<th style=\"text-align: left; padding: 8px; border: 1px solid #ddd; \">Update ID<\/th>\n<td style=\"padding: 8px; border: 1px solid #ddd;\">SCHNEIER:B7AAAD70F170F05E19B535D2379C0A48<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<th style=\"text-align: left; padding: 8px; border: 1px solid #ddd; \">Type<\/th>\n<td style=\"padding: 8px; border: 1px solid #ddd;\">schneier<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<th style=\"text-align: left; padding: 8px; border: 1px solid #ddd; \">Published<\/th>\n<td style=\"padding: 8px; border: 1px solid #ddd;\">2025-07-31T11:00:37<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<th style=\"text-align: left; padding: 8px; border: 1px solid #ddd; \">Last Updated<\/th>\n<td style=\"padding: 8px; border: 1px solid #ddd;\">2025-07-30T16:07:02<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<h3>Security Impact<\/h3>\n<table style=\"width:100%; border-collapse: collapse; margin-bottom: 20px;\">\n<tr>\n<th style=\"text-align: left; padding: 8px; border: 1px solid #ddd; \">Severity<\/th>\n<td style=\"padding: 8px; border: 1px solid #ddd; color: #666666; font-weight: bold;\">NONE<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<h3>Update Details<\/h3>\n<div style=\"; padding: 15px; border-left: 4px solid #4CAF50; margin-bottom: 20px;\">\nPeter Gutmann and Stephan Neuhaus have a new paper&#8211;I think it&#8217;s new, even though it has a March 2025 date&#8211;that makes the argument that we shouldn&#8217;t trust any of the quantum factorization benchmarks, because everyone has been cooking the books:<\/p>\n<p>> Similarly, quantum factorisation is performed using sleight-of-hand numbers that have been selected to make them very easy to factorise using a physics experiment and, by extension, a VIC-20, an abacus, and a dog. A standard technique is to ensure that the factors differ by only a few bits that can then be found using a simple search-based approach that has nothing to do with factorisation\u2026. Note that such a value would never be encountered in the real world since the RSA key generation process typically requires that |p-q| > 100 or more bits [9]. As one analysis puts it, &#8220;Instead of waiting for the hardware to improve by yet further orders of magnitude, researchers began inventing better and better tricks for factoring numbers by exploiting their hidden structure&#8221; [10].<br \/>> <br \/>> A second technique used in quantum factorisation is to use preprocessing on a computer to transform the value being factorised into an entirely different form or even a different problem to solve which is then amenable to being solved via a physics experiment\u2026<\/p>\n<p>Lots more in the paper, which is titled &#8220;Replication of Quantum Factorisation Records with an 8-bit Home Computer, an Abacus, and a Dog.&#8221; He points out the largest number that has been factored legitimately by a quantum computer is 35.<\/p>\n<p>I hadn&#8217;t known these details, but I&#8217;m not surprised. I have long said that the engineering problems between now and a useful, working quantum computer are hard. And by &#8220;hard,&#8221; we don&#8217;t know if it&#8217;s &#8220;land a person on the surface of the moon&#8221; hard, or &#8220;land a person on the surface of the sun&#8221; hard. They&#8217;re both hard, but very different. And we&#8217;re going to hit those engineering problems one by one, as we continue to develop the technology. While I don&#8217;t think quantum computing is &#8220;surface of the sun&#8221; hard, I don&#8217;t expect them to be factoring RSA moduli anytime soon. And&#8211;even there&#8211;I expect lots of engineering challenges in making Shor&#8217;s Algorithm work on an actual quantum computer with large numbers.\n<\/p><\/div>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.schneier.com\/blog\/archives\/2025\/07\/cheating-on-quantum-computing-benchmarks.html\" target=\"_blank\" style=\"display: inline-block; color: white; padding: 10px 20px; text-decoration: none; border-radius: 4px;\">View Advisory Details<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Security Update News Update Information Title Cheating on Quantum Computing Benchmarks Update ID SCHNEIER:B7AAAD70F170F05E19B535D2379C0A48 Type schneier Published 2025-07-31T11:00:37 Last Updated 2025-07-30T16:07:02 Security Impact Severity NONE&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[4],"tags":[6,8,12,13,33,114,7,11,5],"class_list":["post-9406","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-category_news","tag-cve","tag-cvss","tag-exploit","tag-news","tag-none","tag-schneier","tag-security","tag-tapic","tag-vulnerability"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.5 - 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